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Without saving? Bold move.
Its vi. When I use it, I always fuck something up and get tangled up in knots. Best to just bail out and try again later.
That's the people who use vi to view a file. Watched a guy almost get fired when he shared his screen during an audit and had 'sudo vi /etc/shadow' right there in the command window. Auditor saw it and called him on it. He swore that he was only viewing the file to look for a user's id, but the auditor didn't care, because he could have modified it either on purpose or by accident.
sudo vi /etc/shadow
amateur !
screen sudo vi /etc/shadow
or
sudo screen nano /etc/shadow
if you're neurotypical
Every time
vim something.log
esc
quit
exit
ctrl+x
ctrl+q
shushejehojwhatiwibaln):gufht;vfgs+_&f
reboot
nano something.log
fond memories of this distro
Why would a text editor use a key like q to quit, obviously quit is <shift> + ZZ
git güdThank you very much. I sent this to my coworker who expressed interest in switching to vim :)
how to quit vim
Now it's just running on battery
Works as long as you didn't put something silly in your nvim config like
lua vim.keymap.set("ca", "q!", "echo 'not so fast!'")We’re just quitting without writing? Living very dangerously aren’t we?
It is an emergency exit not a normal exit.
When I accidentally edit a very important file very incorrectly and don't know what it looked like before
The real emergency exit will leave swap files
ctrl+z, kill %1
My initial take on the sticker was the whole “fire exit git commit git push;” I do see this other perspective now
It's advice for how most people end up in vim in the first place.
git commit(without -m)On german QWERTZ keyboards, you need to use shift to make : and !.
On US ones as well, I think they just put the relevant key-symbols and excluded the combination press as they can be assumed.
I have a custom keyboard with a QMK firmware. I enabled something called auto shift. It's the best. Just hold down the key you want shifted, and it auto shifts. I settled for enabling this for capital letters and symbols. So comfortable not to have to press the shift key.
So you hold down the first letter of each sentence longer so that it capitalizes rather than hold shift? That feels like it would completely mess with my flow when typing. Shift just happens naturally for me and I don't register I'm pushing it.
Exactly like that, yes. Or 1 for exclamation point, or 2 for @. Just like on a phone keyboard, with tap and hold for symbols and numbers and such.
I've had this keyboard for a few months now and I didn't enable it exactly for the reasons you mention.
I enabled it a few weeks ago now just to try it, and wow, I though I didn't notice myself pressing the shift key, that it "came naturally". Boy was I wrong. Now whenever I have to use the shift key it feels so cumbersome lol. Typing has become so comfortable now.
I use a ZSA Voyager for reference.
What if you wanna repeat a character?
I spam the key. But that is such an extremely rare case that it's worth the trade-off. The firmware also does allow you to add a key to toggle auto shifting on and off, so I could just add that if I want, but I don't see the need.
If I need to repeat a character many times in a text editor, I'd just use the features of the editor to do so. Helix or Neovim has you covered for repeating characters thousands of times and copying it to the clipboard with a handful of keystrokes if you wish. But what an edge case though.
For double letters, I just double tap like you would normally when typing. 👍
Yea, this would be super slow.
Here in Tarzania we hold the superior and elusive ! key
Same on Dvorak.
Though the custom coder's Dvorak I use while programming has a dedicated ! key. Shift still needed for : though.
Slovenian ones too
Common French W. AZERTY proves itself superior once again.
That's basically all keyboard layouts.
I believe that’s Vim for “Beam us out, Mr. Scott”
[Esc] [Z] [Z]
Or just ZZ for me since I’m rarely in insert mode (I just press esc quickly after making an edit out of habit).
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ZZ for the win.
Or just ctrl-z to get out of it and "fg" to get back. :)
ctrl-z$ killall vimJust alt+F4, you didn't need to edit that file anyways
Just buy a new computer.
Would it be
q a !?yet here in trq i need to press shift in %80 of the keys (that's why i use micro)
the annoying thing about trq is that us is the default everywhere, so you can't press [İ] to type "i", it'll type a " ' " instead >:(
similar things for ":" and "-"
You all exit your editor? How you do the rest of your computing?
/s with ♡ from an Emacs fan.
Emacs really is an excellent desktop environment
5 key presses to save and exit. Frickin vim.
I’m pretty sure that’s close without saving changes. :wq would be needed to save.
To be precise, : means bring up commands, w means save, q means exit, and ! means force
I think it's w = write and q = quit so the letters make more sense
Also :x is the same as :wq
No, it isn't, x writes only when changes have been made, while w writes unconditionally.
TIL. Ty!
Why would you want to write again if no changes were made? It's some obtuse behavior
To be more precise, q means quit the current window. If you've split the window, e.g. with :split or :vsplit, use :qa to quit all windows.
Or 3. Hold shift, press ZZ to save and quit ZQ to quit without saving.
5. Writing and quitting
Since people don't seem to realize that vim has a help system: You can get to this information with
:help quitor:help exitfour. the ! is unnecessary. how many actions are there to save and quit in other editors? ctrl, s, ctrl, w is four. move to file, click, move to save, click, move to ×, click is six.
and that's before we replace the wq with x.
If we count the modifier keys:
Vim: esc, shift+:, w, q, Enter
Emacs: ctrl-s, crtl+x ctrl+c, or use the menu options
I use both, but find Emacs much quicker, though vim is easier to learn, though Emacs is easier while you're learning
i've never had the time to get into emacs, would love to though.
also, some layouts have the : on its own key, and if you include the esc in vim commands you're not using vim correctly :)
Surely you're editing right before exiting, why else would you be saving?
Depends how you count. Both
:and!require shift as well.Fuck it I’m pulling the power cord
You can use ZZ as a shortcut!
Where can I buy some of these please?
Ctrl+] Shift+ZZ
Amateurs.
Those went out of style in 1968. Now they're a relic of a forgotten, clunky age, despite the legion of proselytists.