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Ahh, Microsoft 365. Were you get one account so you can have a seamless experience across your programs and devices. All you have to do is keep singing in whenever you want to edit an excel file.
That's a bug in web Outlook. You can work around it by deleting cookies from Outlook before logging in. On Firefox, I always press Ctrl+Shift+H, search for "outlook" and then right-click on an entry → Forget About This Site.
Don't ask me why it takes so long for them to fix it...
OtterThat's helpful, thank you! 😄
I had been opening it in incognito to get around it, but even then it seemed to fail sometimes. I'll tell people to try this next time
I have this problem every day. Clear your cache, close your browser, and then reopen to outlook and that works for me most of the time.
i dedicate chrome to using nothing besides this single sign on and i this happens to me every day nonetheless.
Two weeks ago I had this same problem trying to sign in to remote play my Xbox. Once I overcame this bug there were other bugs and I eventually just gave up.
ZerushHonestly I think that the only reason why M$ and all it's apps and services has become so big is, that it's installed by default in almost any new PC since ever, first naturally because the lack of alternatives. Luckily it's changing nowadays, there are more and more shops which sell PC only with FreeDOS, to the User choice which OS he want to use with. Now it's the same with the Phones, by default iOS or Android, after killing Windows Phone (was a good one, but stupid decisions of MS ended it) and Symbiant.
Anyone is still using M$ Office/Outlook/365? With a ton of better alternatives out there.
just another devI'm guessing the vast majority of its users are students and corporate employees, neither of which get a say in which software is used.
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wizardbeardYou could set up a mail forwarding rule in the web client to forward all incoming mail to your primary email.
Nothing quite like dumb workarounds for Microsoft bullshit.
tabularThey have no say.. up until everyone actually says something. Then maybe we do have a say.
Uhuh. Let me know how that works for you, out in a real corporate setting.
In my experience you can say all you want (if you're lucky), but in the end, switching providers on a large scale costs a lot of money. And their money is more important than your discomfort.
Convincing just one person there is an issue is progress. Cooperating with another for better negotiations is progress.
Are there benefits of promoting inaction?
You can either pick a battle that you cannot win (assuming you're not the one in charge of the many millions such a migration would cost). You can just deal with it, or you can look for better circumstances.
You say you're convincing people, management sees a trouble maker who's spreading unhappiness.
In my opinion, it's better to save your energy for something where it can make a change, not a futile attempt at trying to make an institute drop Outlook or Teams, or whatever shitty software we're talking about.
But hey, this is just my advice. You do you.
Unfortunately large institutions have been spending millions to transition TO 365 the past few years. Education and healthcare are the ones I'm aware of
I am just because it’s so cheap. On the family plan I get 5TB of storage for £10.49. Proton costs more than that for 500GB.
For cloud storage I use Filen (Germany), 10GB for free
But the closest thing to the 6 TB Microsoft offers, would be the 10TB from filen at €400 a year.
Whereas with Microsoft, it's only $120 a year and you get all the other services.
Say what you will about the quality of MS products, but they are the cheaper option here.
Plus it’s a backup location for stuff I simply can’t lose, like the photos of my daughter being born and my wedding. I don’t want to trust them to some company that might suddenly go into administration without any notice.
Plus it’s a backup location for stuff I simply can’t lose
It's not a backup. You're using "cloud storage".
I just want you to understand that, because Microsoft's online storage is not somewhere I would entrust with precious data.
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Microsoft "stay signed in?" screen is the most useless thing ever programmed by man
At work I see that screen at least 5 times a day.
I honestly don't understand the point of it. At every single job I have or have had, it doesn't seem to do anything and I still have to sign in multiple times a day.
+1. I'm very confused and don't understand what it's supposed to do.
At my work, we were told that the cyber security people don't want us to say logged in, so they just ignore it if you say yes. Why it bothers to ask at all in that case, I do not know
There’s also a ”don’t ask again” checkbox, which is mostly there for aesthetic purposes I think.
I wish I could just turn it off because clearly it doesn’t respect my choice.
In a work environment I can only assume they just leave that box in the flow but the actual session duration limit is set by your IT policy.
What annoys me endlessly that i have to interact with the system so much to log in multiple times for various platforms:
1. Email - fill if not on mobile - confirm
2. Password - hope to god its prefilled - confirm
3. MFA - enter - confirm
4. Stay signed in - check useless dont ask again checkbox - confirm
People are saying passkeys are not a good solution, but I would take those immediately over this nonsense
“Programmed by man”?
But didnt they say Microsoft was 30% AI code or something like that.
This was programmed long before AI coding was a thing.
Finally got motivated enough to change the lock screen from other peoples photography to my own. Spend an hour going through shots and make a folder under 'Pictures' root folder called 'Lock screen', go to the settings for lock screen and select that folder as the slideshow source. "We can't use that folder so it was removed". Hmmm. Ok, let me add it to 'Documents' instead. Same issue. Hmmm, ok.... I hate it, but let me move it under c: - ok, it accepted it, sweet. Lock the screen, not showing anything... Hmmm ok, google it. Apparently it fails silently when it needs permissions. Hmmm, Ok... workaround is to select 'Photo' mode instead of slideshow mode, lock the screen. Ok, shows the photo. Ok, now go back to slideshow mode and it should work.
Wrong place for this rant I know but windows just seems progressively shittier over the years, if that's even possible.
I truly hate modern windows but this isn't the issue I'd choose to illustrate that. I recently installed Fedora for a few weeks and one of the first things I wanted to do was change the wallpaper. Turns out there are 3 completely different places you must go to change desktop wallpaper, lock screen wallpaper, and whatever the other one is. Pretty poor design.
I ended up going back to windows because there were laptop-related functions that I just could not get to work on Fedora.
The design is very human. All you need to do is close all tabs where a Microsoft service is potentially running, find all the cookies used by Microsoft's domains (there are only like six of them) and delete them, then restart the browser.
And when they doesn't work, install a fresh copy of Windows on new hardware in a sperate location within another dimension.
"Microsoft works fine. All you need to do is..."
Why can't people try Linux again?
It's a joke.
So was mine.
I actually recently added the Microsoft logout page to µblocks domain filter at work, since it would every now and then trigger a logout the very first page load after I'd log in to the email there.
This has also somehow caused a bunch of other AD-connected systems to suddenly behave a lot better when it comes to session termination.
Edit: Since people were asking for it, this is what you need to add to the "My filters" tab in your UBO config;
This will prevent any requests from redirecting you to log out, timeouts etc will still invalidate your session.
So, how do you do that exactly?
LPT
Oh wow. So you just added the /logout endpoint itself or something else?
WTAF. I was sceptical, but I've been using this all week and haven't once had the issue in the OP. Whereas previously I had to log in 2-3 times back to back every morning.
Any idea why this works?
I think the login-redirect system is just broken for ADFS, it feels like it adds all the SSO-logout URLs for all systems you're logged into to the redirect queue when it times your session out.
Which means you'll have to log in enough times to exhaust that queue before it finally reaches the actual system you're trying to log into.
But that's just an assumption.
Oh, do share.
Added an edit with the filter line
What is it with Microsoft and not being able to manage something as simple as a session? Why are sessions so majorly over complicated that singing in is one of those fun things that can take half an hour?
Fuck everything about incompetent evil Microsoft
The only company that hasn't yet managed to build a successful sign-in.
This
Once I had our Outlook Web at work get stuck in a redirect loop until I went into the MSFT admin panel and gave the affected accounts a extra permission they never needed before.
Fucking Redirect Loop. They're so dogshit at this it loops back to being funny.
I've reached redirect loops on all Microsoft accounts I've had at school or work... Apparently a very common problem that's existed for years.
Reminds me of the w10->w11 upgrade in one of my former jobs.
For most of the upgrade process, there was the common Windows blue screen. In the foreground, a big fat clickable 'OK' button, and right underneath, the phrase 'Your upgrade is underway. Do NOT press OK!'
at least they didn't put the recompute base encryption hash key next to it
😂
I have now a bunch of browser profiles to keep each login separate. The joys of having one Microsoft account, linked to multiple systems, but none of them want to run in the same browser profile at the same time.
Get the container extension for Firefox. It's far superior to using multiple profiles.
can't, firefox is not a supported browser for my company shitty SSO
Good god. I’m so sorry.
the joy of not having any microsoft accounts.
although i still do have to deal with this shit every day for other people. the 'best' ones are those with only a voice number on their account for a verification, from back before they went sms-only for phone numbers.
Do you think Microsoft understands consent?
[ ] - Yes
[ ] - Ask again later
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I just get this.
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Well I'm in the UK, so yes. :)
my morning work routine includes cursing out microsoft
don't get me started how bad outlook is in ff despite using about 1gb of ram
Don't get me started how bad outlook is, period. I don't get it, it fails so hard at just being an email client.
It looks like you opened that login form, then logged out “from all devices” on another tab, and then continued the login.
Ok, let's catalogue every way to get the OP's interaction sequence...
It also happens when you kept the login form there for too long, or when MS decided you should migrate into another version of the service you were trying to get into. Oh, it also happens when you try to change the Teams organization but it decides to change back for some reason (probably because you clicked at the wrong link).
Or if you decided to take too long for your morning coffee break. Or if the planets enter retrograde. Or when it's the 12th millisecond past every third minute since the creation of the universe.
No, I have regularly the same experience on my own Linux laptop when I want to log in to check emails on Outlook Web. It has to do with left over cookies, because from a private window it works. It's simple incompetence from Microsoft not being able to handle this.